Installing an extension

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Joined: 07/22/2009
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I can't believe I've scanned through these threads and documentation and I can't find the answer to a simple question. Maybe I'm missing it, maybe I'm scanning past it, maybe it should be obvious. I've uploaded Kaltura CE onto my own site. The basic program is working fine. What do I do to add these extensions, for example, Kaltura Advanced Editing or any of the other downloads? I'm use to Wordpress, where they have documentation, but ultimately you just put the file in a Plugins directory and activate it. What do I do with these downloads? Maybe it's so simple, but I can't find a place that states this directly and there is no simple documentation with the download.

Joined: 04/05/2009
Points: 354

I'm very confused as to what you're doing.

Kaltura CE is a server package. It's quite complex to set up and requires a good understanding of UNIX, Apache and PHP. I'm guessing that you're not actually wanting to do this.

If you just want to install the "All In One Video Pack" Wordpress plugin, then all you need to do is download it from:

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/kaltura-interactive-video/

...and install it as you would any other Wordpress plugin. Kaltura fits in perfectly with Wordpress so the actual operation of it is quite easy.

Joined: 07/22/2009
Points: 6

Thanks for getting back to me.

I guess that is the something that I was needing to be told. I want Kaltura to do a lot more than just using it to post video on Wordpress. I'm looking for all the features that is talked about, just on my server. So what I can do is, rather than pay a monthly fee, can I pay someone at Kaltura to set it all up on my server, get it running, but still host the video on my server? I guess I'm not understanding all the options that come with the CE edition. Or is the other edition the only option for me if I want all the features?

Joined: 03/29/2009
Points: 764

Hi,

I think you are talking about the CE edition, that lets you install all the video management components and host all the media on your server. It does require a little more technical expertise, but I'm sure our community will be happy to assist.

Joined: 07/22/2009
Points: 6

Well, I've got the basic CE edition up and running. I can't find any documentation on how to implement all the extensions/widgets: KMC, KAE, etc. For instance, I downloaded KAE. Where does it go? How do I install it? Surely there is documentation on that.

Joined: 04/05/2009
Points: 354

I think you're missing the whole point of what all the different Kaltura components actually are...

Have a read of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaltura

My suggestion would be to get in contact with Kaltura via the contact button at the top of this page and get them to call you up and discuss what Kaltura is, and what it can do for you and your business. I think it will be easier to explain in more detail over the phone.

Alternately this video may also help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG5-1sW6K7w

Joined: 07/27/2009
Points: 4

Hi All,
First of all let me give a small introduction of myself. I am a software developer and I work for a American MNC. Creating videos is my hobby. I came across this site today while googling.

Now coming to the point ... I have used only Windows Movie Maker which comes free of cost. Let me know if there are some good video editors applications(Online/ Standalone) using which I can create videos that brings a Wow from the audiences.

I have downloaded the KAE installable thinking it would have a msi/ exe file to be installed in MS Windows. But :( Can this be installed only on a Linux machine? Your help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Vijay

Joined: 04/05/2009
Points: 354

If you want something to edit together home movies, then Kaltura is not the tool for you. In fact, no ONLINE video editor is. You want something that's quick, and fast - something that doesn't require you to transfer a mountain load of content over the Internet to some remote server. Online video editing is great for short things (i.e. Competitions, News Snippets, etc.), but until the Internet speeds up, for "proper" editing, you'll want to do it offline. Windows Movie Maker is a good starting point, but if you want something more serious you can move up to Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas.

iMovie and Final Cut Express are great options for Mac users.

KAE is not an application you can just install and run (like Windows Movie Maker). It's a "tool" that integrates with the Kaltura platform. The KAE is NOT an application in the traditional sense. It's an "tool" that gets INSERTED into an application (such as Wordpress).

You're trying to use the wrong piece of software for the wrong job.

Joined: 07/27/2009
Points: 4

Thanks for the neat explanation.

But, neither Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas does come free of cost and nor do I have Mac system with me. Can you suggest me a good open source and easy to use Video Editor if you have used any. Thanks.

Regards,
Vijay

Joined: 04/05/2009
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Joined: 03/29/2009
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Hi,

Please read this . It should give a general idea of our various videos solutions and technology.

Joined: 07/22/2009
Points: 6

I've read most of the information that has been linked here. I still haven't really found a path or directions that lead from what I currently have on my website (Kaltura CE, just the basic setup) with what Kaltura is capable of with all the extensions/widgets. They outline all that Kaltura is capable of all over the website, but when you just install Kaltura CE, most of those functionalities aren't there yet without all the widgets.

I've contacted Kaltura, perhaps they can more fully explain what I need to do to get all the functions and capabilities of Kaltura. I'm guessing at this point that it will require someone there to do further installation/setup for me.

Joined: 07/27/2009
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Yeah its good that you pointed me to look into the tech overview. It did clarify me to some extent. I should have done that first :D

Cheers!

Joined: 04/05/2009
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What exactly are you trying to achieve?

Kaltura CE is basically just a video platform and framework. It manages all your media content. It also provides an API that lets you hook into Kaltura CE and use and manipulate the media content. You can think of it as an "operating system" like Windows or Mac OS. It provides all the back-end stuff - but it's useless without any software on it.

Kaltura offers a couple of different "software packages". There's the Wordpress Plugin, Drupal Addon, Wiki Extension, Remix Site, etc. Just like with Windows and Mac OS, you can also write your own software, and use the API to access all the media that's stored behind the scenes.

So now that you've got the "operating system" running (i.e. Kaltura CE) it's time to install some software!

My suggestion first up would be to give Wordpress a try. Simple download Wordpress, then download and install the All in One Video Pack. You you have some software to play with! A powerful content management system (which is Wordpress), plus the ability to manage media (the Kaltura part)!

The Wordpress plugin basically acts exactly the same as any normal piece of software. It uses the API to "talk" to the Kaltura back-end. On top of the API is also a set of "widgets" (for lack of a better term) that help you build applications such as the KCW (Kaltura Contribution Wizard), KSE (Kaltura Simple Editor), KAE (Kaltura Advanced Editor), etc. Much the same as the Windows platform has common elements such as Dialog Boxes, Kaltura has these elements that are common across the Kaltura platform. For example, the Wordpress plugin uses the KAE for editing tasks, the KCW for importing content via the Wordpress Administrator Interface, and the KDP (Kaltura Dynamic Player) for playing back media on the Wordpress generated pages.

Using the PHP library you can easily develop your own PHP-based applications. The PHP library lets you easily access the Kaltura API. You can then separately download Kaltura "widgets" such as the KAE and KDP and use them in your applications. It's all open source, so you can customise to your hearts content.

Does this clear things up?

Joined: 05/18/2009
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Triple props to Chris Hocking for professional and patient explanation of RTFM.

:)

Joined: 07/22/2009
Points: 6

Okay. That maybe puts me a little closer to what I want. I already downloaded and installed the Wordpress package. All that really allows directly is to just embed videos into posts and pages. No big deal. For example, I still don't understand how I can edit videos using KAE.

I think what your saying is that the PHP Library is the key here. If I install that, that allows me to install the different widgets. Okay, I've downloaded that. Now what? How do you "install" it? Just like the widgets, I haven't gotten a clear description of what it means to install anything. Does it go in a particular file on the ftp site? There is no installer of any sort within Kaltura and the Wordpress Installer only has the Wordpress plugin. This may be PHP 101, I don't know. Again, I may just have to have someone there do this for me if it gets real technical. I'm still waiting for a response from my request last week.

Joined: 04/05/2009
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To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure if I can explain everything any more clearer than I already have.

You cannot INSTALL the Kaltura Advanced Editor, Kaltura Dynamic Player, Kaltura Standard Editor, or other Kaltura "widgets". These are not standalone pieces of software. They are just small components of a much bigger system. Think of them like parts of a car. The KAE is like a horn. Sure you can use it by itself, and it can be used to have some kind of a purpose (i.e. waking up your neighbours in the middle of the night!), but it works a lot better when it's used alongside other parts of the car, like the wheels, indicators, steering wheel, etc.

There is NO "install.exe" file and you can't just upload a bunch of files to an FTP sever and expect everything to magically work. There is no information on how to install the KAE, because... well, you don't install it! If you want to use it, then you must write some PHP code that makes use of it. Download the remix site example if this is something that interests you.

But... more importantly... you still haven't told us what you want to do with Kaltura!

If you're just looking for a free piece of software to edit videos, then Kaltura is not for you. You're much better off downloading a free video editing program that you can EASILY install on your computer.

However, if you're looking to share videos on your website, allow people to remix videos that you've created, etc. then Kaltura is great.

For examples of how people are using Kaltura have a look through:

http://www.kaltura.org/forums/general/showcase-your-work

If you actually tell us what you WANT TO DO, then maybe we can point you in the right direction. At the moment you're being way to vague. I'm more than happy to help you, but you're going to have to give me more information that what you've given.

Joined: 07/22/2009
Points: 6

Okay. I see. I guess I'm use to Wordpress and all of its "plugins."

I want to be able to store a large collection of videos online, set restrictions so some can be shared and some are not, create playlists that can then be embedded into webpages, I want people to be able to upload their own video, I want to be able to edit the video within the collection so I'm not always downloading and then editing in iMovie and then uploading again, and I want this all to appear seamlessly in a website that I have created.

I guess when I said "all the functionalities" I was referring to the Downloads area of the website. For example, on the KAE project page, they begin listing all the things you can do with it: Remix videos and images, Import videos, images and audio while editing, Add a soundtrack. etc etc etc. And then you can download it. I think it is a reasonable conclusion to think the same way you do with a Wordpress plugin, "Oh, this adds these features, I'll just download this and install it and then I can do these features."

So I get that that is wrong. I was just seeing Point A (what I can do with my current Kaltura CE) and Point B (all these things that the website says CAN be done) and I wasn't seeing what needed to be done to get from A to B.

So I need someone to build these capabilities. I get it. With programs like Wordpress making things so easy for people with my computer skill level, at least for me, I was looking for an easy-to-understand way of hearing, "This isn't like Wordpress, these aren't like plugins, there is some PHP magic that needs to be done to incorporate these." Maybe that is on the site and I just never came across it.

But I appreciate your response.

Joined: 04/05/2009
Points: 354

Keep in mind that this is a DEVELOPERS community. The purpose of this community is to develop software that fits in with Kaltura. If you want something that you can just "plug and play" then there are options on the Kaltura corporate site - specifically the Wiki, Wordpress and Drupal plugins/addons. If you need help with Microsoft Word, you don't visit MSDN - you refer to the online help that's designed for USERS not computer programmers.

Also keep in mind that the KAE, KDP, KCW, etc. are all built into the Wordpress Plugin, Drupal addon, etc. You don't need to "install" them because they're already built into the core.

I think you'll find that if you install Drupal and the Kaltura All in One Video Module, you can make this work.

This site is powered by Kaltura and Drupal, and basically contains most of the functionality you are after:

http://www.opensourcecinema.org/

This may also be of some interest to you:

http://www.doitwithdrupal.com/sessions/youtube-drupal

Joined: 04/28/2010
Points: 1

Dear Community Expert,
I don't understand how to use KAE within Kaltura CE (I mean KMC...). I downloaded it from http://www.kaltura.org/project/Advanced_Timeline_Based_Video_Editor, but there is no documentation on how to add it to the Kaltura CE...
Can you explain where I have to copy files and folders included in the kae_v1.1.0 packaged, and which installation steps I have to follow in order to use KAE within Kaltura CE?

Thanks in advance

Joined: 02/22/2012
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This post is very informative and useful.. Thanks for sharing knowledge..

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